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		<title>By: Fedneurfked</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-6784</link>
		<dc:creator>Fedneurfked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx for the post.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Silberstein</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-6305</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Silberstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received BON today just as others have described. I am a philosopher of cognitive science and a philosopher of physics, and GEB played a big part in my career choice. Indeed, I was very weirded out by BON because in grad school I had a SLEP seminar with Douglas Hofstadter (DH)–1989; I still have my signed copy of GEB which has an inspiring and flattering inscription as well. It gets weirder though. I am embarrassed to admit that in a PI-like state as an undergraduate I wrote an absurdly long tomb on GEB as a Glass Bead Game (GBG) complete with suggestions for how to formalize such a game–talk about missing the point of Hesse’s book! Flashforward to 1989 where I inexplicably discussed this syncretic bit of juvenalia with DH, unsurprisingly, he wasn’t very moved. If it weren’t for the christian angle of BON I might suspect that BON is to DH what leaving the GBG was to JK. Maybe this is DH way of saying: “all that I have written seems like straw to me” and the christian twist as such is just to throw us off the scent. If so, I hope DH doesn’t decide to take any long swims anytime soon. I also hope some small portion of what we children of GEB produce isn’t merely just scholastic garbage; I still adore GEB and GBG, I hope I feel that way about ANY of my work in the future. How’s that for a secular prayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received BON today just as others have described. I am a philosopher of cognitive science and a philosopher of physics, and GEB played a big part in my career choice. Indeed, I was very weirded out by BON because in grad school I had a SLEP seminar with Douglas Hofstadter (DH)–1989; I still have my signed copy of GEB which has an inspiring and flattering inscription as well. It gets weirder though. I am embarrassed to admit that in a PI-like state as an undergraduate I wrote an absurdly long tomb on GEB as a Glass Bead Game (GBG) complete with suggestions for how to formalize such a game–talk about missing the point of Hesse’s book! Flashforward to 1989 where I inexplicably discussed this syncretic bit of juvenalia with DH, unsurprisingly, he wasn’t very moved. If it weren’t for the christian angle of BON I might suspect that BON is to DH what leaving the GBG was to JK. Maybe this is DH way of saying: “all that I have written seems like straw to me” and the christian twist as such is just to throw us off the scent. If so, I hope DH doesn’t decide to take any long swims anytime soon. I also hope some small portion of what we children of GEB produce isn’t merely just scholastic garbage; I still adore GEB and GBG, I hope I feel that way about ANY of my work in the future. How’s that for a secular prayer.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvaro M</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-4370</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvaro M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Adventures of the Sussex Vampire", the Sherlock Holmes story where The Giant Rat of Sumatra is mentioned, one of Conan Doyle´s best!

Does it solve the mystery?

Not at all, but I have a feeling that there are clues to be found for the meticulous reader:
http://levishand.com/2009/06/19/adventure-of-the-sussex-vampire/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Adventures of the Sussex Vampire&#8221;, the Sherlock Holmes story where The Giant Rat of Sumatra is mentioned, one of Conan Doyle´s best!</p>
<p>Does it solve the mystery?</p>
<p>Not at all, but I have a feeling that there are clues to be found for the meticulous reader:<br />
<a href="http://levishand.com/2009/06/19/adventure-of-the-sussex-vampire/" rel="nofollow">http://levishand.com/2009/06/19/adventure-of-the-sussex-vampire/</a></p>
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		<title>By: njtt</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-4228</link>
		<dc:creator>njtt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can add me as another data point. I received a copy a couple of days ago. The package was much the same as everybody else's, with the message, "I will tell you more when I return," and Swedish postage stamps. I am a philosopher of cognitive science, and I do have my own web site. The address used could have been found there by a determined searcher, but it is actually a home address and the sender appears to have believed that it is a university address. Another possible source for the address might be the American Philosophical Association membership list (I do not think these are available on the open web, but they are published in print every year, and can probably be accessed online by other members).

I have just noticed an edge of paper in front of the main title page, as if there had been another page there that was cut out. Perhaps this is just an artefact of binding, but, given everything else, such as the page with the hole, it might be meant to mean something. Starting from the front, I have the black end-paper with the letter to Hofstadter attached to it, then a page with the Escher drawing, followed by this edge and then the main title page. Is that the same for everyone?

With regard to the cut-out, I also see "faith and choice" if I align the bottom of the Hofstadter letter with the bottom of the page, but if I align the tops instead I see "a copy without." Perhaps the alignment isn't quite so good, but that for "faith and choice" is not perfect (and neither make much sense in the context of the text on the page).

I have no connection with Hofstadter (well, I know David Chalmers, who was student of his, but that is it), and I have never published anything referring to Hofstadter (although I did make a passing mention of him in my doctoral thesis, which is on my site), or Douglas Adams or any of the other people that "Joe K" seems interested in. I am an atheist, but generally keep my religious opinions to myself: I am pretty sure there is no hint of that on my own web site, although if you were to scour old usenet postings or comments on other people's blogs you might be able to figure it out.

Levi Shand does not make it entirely clear in his postings here, but, if you look at his blog, he appears to be a recent graduate of Indiana University. The several copies of the book that he says were found by his friend Kevin seem to be the only ones we know of that were not mailed to someone individually, and it appears that they were found close to the UI campus, where Hofstadter is a professor. That seems to be a least weak circumstantial evidence that Hofstadter himself, despite his denials, is the source of this. Perhaps these were copies that he was about to ship off in bulk to a confederate in Sweden for mailing (I see no real evidence that the book was actually printed in Sweden).

Does anyone know anything about Hofstadter's religious views? Come to that, does anyone know him well enough to say whether he is seriously eccentric? "Gödel, Escher, Bach" certainly seems like the work of someone who is both brilliant and loopy (pun intended).

At the end of the day, though, I guess I still lean toward the theory that it is all the work of some wealthy Swedish nutcase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can add me as another data point. I received a copy a couple of days ago. The package was much the same as everybody else&#8217;s, with the message, &#8220;I will tell you more when I return,&#8221; and Swedish postage stamps. I am a philosopher of cognitive science, and I do have my own web site. The address used could have been found there by a determined searcher, but it is actually a home address and the sender appears to have believed that it is a university address. Another possible source for the address might be the American Philosophical Association membership list (I do not think these are available on the open web, but they are published in print every year, and can probably be accessed online by other members).</p>
<p>I have just noticed an edge of paper in front of the main title page, as if there had been another page there that was cut out. Perhaps this is just an artefact of binding, but, given everything else, such as the page with the hole, it might be meant to mean something. Starting from the front, I have the black end-paper with the letter to Hofstadter attached to it, then a page with the Escher drawing, followed by this edge and then the main title page. Is that the same for everyone?</p>
<p>With regard to the cut-out, I also see &#8220;faith and choice&#8221; if I align the bottom of the Hofstadter letter with the bottom of the page, but if I align the tops instead I see &#8220;a copy without.&#8221; Perhaps the alignment isn&#8217;t quite so good, but that for &#8220;faith and choice&#8221; is not perfect (and neither make much sense in the context of the text on the page).</p>
<p>I have no connection with Hofstadter (well, I know David Chalmers, who was student of his, but that is it), and I have never published anything referring to Hofstadter (although I did make a passing mention of him in my doctoral thesis, which is on my site), or Douglas Adams or any of the other people that &#8220;Joe K&#8221; seems interested in. I am an atheist, but generally keep my religious opinions to myself: I am pretty sure there is no hint of that on my own web site, although if you were to scour old usenet postings or comments on other people&#8217;s blogs you might be able to figure it out.</p>
<p>Levi Shand does not make it entirely clear in his postings here, but, if you look at his blog, he appears to be a recent graduate of Indiana University. The several copies of the book that he says were found by his friend Kevin seem to be the only ones we know of that were not mailed to someone individually, and it appears that they were found close to the UI campus, where Hofstadter is a professor. That seems to be a least weak circumstantial evidence that Hofstadter himself, despite his denials, is the source of this. Perhaps these were copies that he was about to ship off in bulk to a confederate in Sweden for mailing (I see no real evidence that the book was actually printed in Sweden).</p>
<p>Does anyone know anything about Hofstadter&#8217;s religious views? Come to that, does anyone know him well enough to say whether he is seriously eccentric? &#8220;Gödel, Escher, Bach&#8221; certainly seems like the work of someone who is both brilliant and loopy (pun intended).</p>
<p>At the end of the day, though, I guess I still lean toward the theory that it is all the work of some wealthy Swedish nutcase.</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-4183</link>
		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Academics who have been receiving this mailing, are you also listed on academia.edu?

I'm trying to figure out how our names and addresses are being collected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Academics who have been receiving this mailing, are you also listed on academia.edu?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to figure out how our names and addresses are being collected.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvaro M</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-4081</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvaro M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More info on how the books were found, with videoclip:
http://levishand.com/2009/06/08/kevins-story/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More info on how the books were found, with videoclip:<br />
<a href="http://levishand.com/2009/06/08/kevins-story/" rel="nofollow">http://levishand.com/2009/06/08/kevins-story/</a></p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-4074</link>
		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>received today at academic address. postmarked 6-4-09.
i'm an unpublished academic. not yet done with phd.
new wave of mailings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>received today at academic address. postmarked 6-4-09.<br />
i&#8217;m an unpublished academic. not yet done with phd.<br />
new wave of mailings.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvaro M</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-4046</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvaro M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levi Shand did it again:
http://levishand.com/2009/06/05/we-turned-round-and-saw-a-puny-little-mouse/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi Shand did it again:<br />
<a href="http://levishand.com/2009/06/05/we-turned-round-and-saw-a-puny-little-mouse/" rel="nofollow">http://levishand.com/2009/06/05/we-turned-round-and-saw-a-puny-little-mouse/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Ronson</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-4022</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Ronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone,

I'm a UK journalist and author - I work for The Guardian, Channel 4 television and the BBC, and my various books can be read about on my website, jonronson.com. I've been approached by someone who has been sent Being or Nothingness to try and solve this wonderful, fascinating, unsettling mystery once and for all! 

I would therefore love to talk with anyone who has received it, whether you've done any investigating about it's source or not. 

It would be great to hear from you at jonronson@mac.com

With very best wishes

Jon Ronson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a UK journalist and author - I work for The Guardian, Channel 4 television and the BBC, and my various books can be read about on my website, jonronson.com. I&#8217;ve been approached by someone who has been sent Being or Nothingness to try and solve this wonderful, fascinating, unsettling mystery once and for all! </p>
<p>I would therefore love to talk with anyone who has received it, whether you&#8217;ve done any investigating about it&#8217;s source or not. </p>
<p>It would be great to hear from you at <a href="mailto:jonronson@mac.com">jonronson@mac.com</a></p>
<p>With very best wishes</p>
<p>Jon Ronson</p>
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		<title>By: Alvaro M</title>
		<link>http://muriloq.com/blog/2008/09/being-or-nothingness-marketing-viral-bizarro/#comment-3885</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvaro M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 04:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Ramin I can report on some research I did on the 25 quotations that seem to have inspired the author to produce the book.

Could these be the ones:
http://levishand.com/2009/05/04/the-book/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Ramin I can report on some research I did on the 25 quotations that seem to have inspired the author to produce the book.</p>
<p>Could these be the ones:<br />
<a href="http://levishand.com/2009/05/04/the-book/" rel="nofollow">http://levishand.com/2009/05/04/the-book/</a></p>
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